tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post5841966644890865841..comments2023-10-17T05:41:41.681-04:00Comments on Katharine A. Cartwright Studio: KitschAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11037549177881696434noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-7068384725568861592011-08-15T02:00:27.166-04:002011-08-15T02:00:27.166-04:00Art for art's sake, money for God's sake.....<i>Art for art's sake, money for God's sake...</i><br /><br />British Rock Group 10cc from the Album "How Dare You" Song title "Art for Art's Sake" 1975<br /><br />This discussion made me think of it.Stan Kurthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07591425614127432689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-3272727460727584662011-08-12T20:57:07.093-04:002011-08-12T20:57:07.093-04:00I know that there is certainly plenty of kitsch av...I know that there is certainly plenty of kitsch available in the world. I am uncertain whether I agree with CG's opinion of where it comes from.<br /><br />I did have an epiphany of sorts for myself when I was teaching my workshop (still high from that experience) when I was able to describe, in my own words, my definition of why sentimentality was bad for my art. I think that it is recruiting other people's feelings and regurgitating them for the audience's sake. The opposite is the hard work of representing things the artist wants to say.<br /><br />Well, I used fewer words but the idea is there. Authenticity is the artist's mind, and sentiment/nostalgia are the public's opinions as perceived by the artist.<br /><br />Kitsch.Casey Klahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-18754348332681785882011-08-11T15:06:47.510-04:002011-08-11T15:06:47.510-04:00Hi Kathy! Oh this is a tricky subject. Today's...Hi Kathy! Oh this is a tricky subject. Today's kitsch might be tomorrow's fine art, and vice versa. Perhaps an essence of snobbery is essential to weed out the difference.Mark Sheekyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00710485457283053795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-89370750255463289172011-08-11T07:01:15.740-04:002011-08-11T07:01:15.740-04:00Hi Hallie and Dan - yes, I think that Greenberg...Hi Hallie and Dan - yes, I think that Greenberg's definition of "Kitsch" fully depends on fine art, since it's a spin-off (of sorts). Dan, it does seem that a lot of the art theory books that I've selected deal with kitsch, and the reason could be that these authors are trying to make the distinction between what is fine art and what isn't. I suspect that the ubiquitous presence of kitsch has led to confusion about the difference. That might lead us to question why the distinction matters. Personally, I think it does matter since I feel that authenticity is essential to my own work, and to the work of my students. But, that doesn't mean that I'm right. Thanks to both of you for entering into this discussion!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037549177881696434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-22069191664177038322011-08-10T22:06:15.501-04:002011-08-10T22:06:15.501-04:00I notice that in virtually every book discussion w...I notice that in virtually every book discussion we have had on art, the author has found it important to consider kitsch. I find it ironic and a bit disturbing, and I don't really get it. Do we really need to carve out the kitsch to get to the art? In other words, playing on what Hallie has asked, "So without kitsch, there would be no fine art?" :)Dan Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13130079803891606515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1324184304367023797.post-17586832234288863502011-08-10T21:31:26.927-04:002011-08-10T21:31:26.927-04:00So without fine art and fine art collectors, there...So without fine art and fine art collectors, there would be no kitsch?hw (hallie) farberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11636182620056350811noreply@blogger.com